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Episode 2. Learning and creativity with Helen Murray

Updated: Jun 20, 2022

In this episode of the Creativity for All Podcast – the first guest episode of Series 1 on the origin of creativity – I'm talking to Helen Murray.

Helen is passionate about facilitating learning and development and is a qualified teacher and education development advisor. She’s also a home-educating parent who values freedom, self-direction, and consent in education.

She's interested in learning as a creative process, which makes her the ideal first guest on my show. She’s an original thinker and in the seven years I’ve known her, there isn’t a single conversation we’ve had that hasn’t left me with food for thought, especially on the subject of creativity.

Helen and I talk about active learning, how to encourage children to be creative, about boredom as a trigger for creativity and the freedom to be creative, among many other topics, so I hope you will enjoy our conversation.

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A maths teacher can be creative. So can a financial adviser, a community builder, and a yoga teacher. Not to mention a speed painter, a potter, or an actor!

Creativity is everywhere and I love nothing more than to explore it in The Creativity for All Podcast, either by focusing on a theme – such as perfectionism, feeding your creative brain, or the pressure to be creative – in my solo episodes, or through my conversations with all manner of creative people.

I want to challenge the perception of creativity and, in the process, debunk many myths attached to it: it's painful, for artists and the chosen few, etc.

My guests and I are keen to zoom in and dissect the origin of an idea, the impulse that makes us engage with our own creativity, with the hope that it will inspire listeners to get creative too.

My podcast is designed for anyone who’s already being creative, or is tempted to use their creativity, in particular those of you who think they are not creative or can never be. I would love to change your mind!

The Creativity for All Podcast is sponsored by Blue as an Orange, where we believe in creativity through communication, and offer mentoring and coaching for aspiring writers and tailored language tuition for individuals and companies.

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